Joel Hedlund wrote: >> If you install Eclipse and try to use it without reading the >> Workbench User Guide then you are not going to get anywhere. > > > Woah, easy now! I never read any "Workbench User Guide" and I'm doing > just fine with PyDev. Fabio Zadrozny (PyDev developer) wrote an > excellent startup guide for python programmers that includes > installing and basic editing: > > http://www.fabioz.com/pydev/manual_101_root.html > > It's all I ever read and it was enough for me to get going with > Eclipse + PyDev within 15 minutes on a WinXP machine. >
Sorry to offend, I was just extrapoloating from personal experience. When I was looking for a Java IDE I tried IntelliJ Idea, Netbeans and Eclipse in that order. I found that I could use Idea and Netbeans without reading the manuals, but I could not get going with Eclipse until I read the Workbench User Guide and got the hang of perspectives and views. Even installing it the first time seemed to be a mystery. It is not difficult at all, just different. In retrospect, I don't know why I found it puzzling but I have met others who have had the same experience. It has improved a lot recently, but even the Eclipse web-site was hard to navigate. I think that a lot of the puzzlement comes from the fact that the Eclipse folks present Eclipse not as an IDE, but as a framework where one of the applications happens to be an IDE. Don. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
