Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > > Yeah... we recognize that we could certainly open-source more of our > > software. While we've released some stuff > > (code.google.com/projects.html), there is a LOT more that we want to > > http://code.google.com/projects.html > > > do. Getting engineers' 20% time to do that has been difficult. > > Thankfully, we know how to fix that and got the okay/headcount to make > > it happen. (IOW, it isn't a lack of desire, but making it happen) > > When a company like Google open's sources, this means simply nothing > more than: > > - the software is not critical to their business (e.g. core-software) > - the internal resources cannot ensure further development > > See IBM, SUN and others, which have done the same thing. > > > But even if we haven't been able to open-source as much code as we'd > > like, we *have* been trying to be very supportive of the community. > > Between the Summer of Code and direct cash contributions, we've > > provided a LOT of support to a large number of open source > > organizations. > > I hope that you invest some time to _organize_ the Open Source Projects. > > Starting with Python and it's project-structure (e.g. build-process) and > documentation (e.g. ensuring standard-terminology is kept, like "class") > > e.g.: where can I find an UML diagramm of the Python Object Model? > > Even Ruby has one: > > http://lazaridis.com/case/lang/ruby/TheRubyObjectModel.png > > - > > > And we have a couple other ideas on how to help the open source > > community. We're working on it! > > The open-source-community can help Google, too! > > E.g.: Google needs an public Issue-Tracking-System. > > I needed around 30 emails and 2 months until google-groups-support > removed a bug which broke(!) existent links to google archives. (cannot > find the topic. Simply search your support-archives to see the desaster). > > With publicity, the team would have removed the bug within one week. > > > Cheers, > > -g > > And finally: > > If Mr. van Rossum is now at Google, and Python is essentially a Mr. van > Rossum based product, then most possibly the evolution-speed of Python > will decrease even more (Google will implement things needed by Google - > van Rossum will follow, so simple). > > I mean, when will this language finally become a _really_ fully > Object-Oriented one, with a clean reflective Meta-Model? > > Thus I can see Python pass this this _simple_ evaluation (which it does > not pass in its current implementation): > > http://lazaridis.com/case/lang/python.html > > - > > I have around one year to await. > > Will see. > > . > > -- > http://lazaridis.com
Hi there, I wonder what comments you would have about XOTCL, or other OO extensions for tcl, like snit, and dozens more. I looked at the various scripting languages available to me and decided to go with tcl as it seemed the most versatile. I can't find it on your page though. Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
