Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-11-29, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: > >>> You see, you can make languages more powerful by *removing* > >>> things from it. > >> You cast this in way to general terms. The logic conclusion from > >> this statements is that the most powerfull language is the empty > >> language. > > The only way you reach that conclusion is if you read the > > statement as saying that removing things *always* makes a langauge > > more powerful. That's not what I said, > I would say it is the common interpretation for such a sentence.
You'd be wrong. "you can do X by doing foo" does not exclude "you can do the opposite of X by doing foo". Stating "you can make a lot of money by investing in the stock market" does not imply that is the only possible outcome, nor even the most likely. > > Just because Python isn't perfect is no reason to make it worse. > > Why is it worse. You seem to think that if one has a toolbox, which > lacks a hammer, that the fact that the hammer can be abused makes > your toolbox less usefull if you add a hammer to it. I see Mike arguing that the debate before adding the hammer is a good thing. It ensures that only the *really* good tools -- the ones that are so beneficial that they outweigh complicating the toolset -- actually get added; and only when they are in a form that they overcome many objections. > > The only way this would be good is if "more features" were > > inherently better. That's simply not true. So the change in > > behavior you're looking for isn't clearly good. > > No, this is good while there are still possible features that could > make python a better language Then let's subject those possible features -- with their real use cases and implementations -- to harsh scrutiny, over an extended time, before deciding they'll be a net benefit. -- \ "Unix is an operating system, OS/2 is half an operating system, | `\ Windows is a shell, and DOS is a boot partition virus." -- | _o__) Peter H. Coffin | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
