elas tica schreef op 26/10/2022 om 21:01:
Quotes from The Python Language Reference, Release 3.10.8:

- Note that tuples are not formed by the parentheses, but rather by use of the 
comma operator (p. 66)
- Note: If the object is a class instance and the attribute reference occurs on 
both sides of the assignment operator (p. 86)
- The second half of the list, the augmented assignment operators, serve 
lexically as delimiters, but also perform an operation (p. 15)



Do you agree with this use of the term "operator"?
It's a bit fuzzy, I guess. Comma, =, +=, *= etc. are in section 2.6 "Delimiters" and not in section 2.5 "Operators" of The Python Language Reference, which would seem to imply that those are not operators. But the text in section 2.6 then says "The second half of the list, the augmented assignment _operators_, serve lexically as delimiters, but also perform an operation.", so at least the augmented assignment operators are seen as operators despite not being in the Operators section.

Because there is no such "comma operator" in Python as explained by the 
official FAQ: 
https://docs.python.org/3/faq/programming.html#what-s-up-with-the-comma-operator-s-precedence
That does seem to contradict the text in the language reference.
And, =, += and the like are not operators since (a=b), (a+=b), etc have no 
value. There is no assignment operator instead there exists an assignment 
statement. The only assignment operator I can figure out is the walrus operator.
I think that's a good point too. The language reference calls those things 'delimiters', which doesn't feel like a good description either for many of them. I find it weird to think of =, *+, +=as a delimiter. Maybe that's why those things are called operators anyway instead of delimiters in many places? Things like "Note: If the object is a class instance and the attribute reference occurs on both sides of the assignment _delimiter_" sound a bit weird I feel, even though completely correct according to the language reference.

So yeah I think you have a point that the terminology regarding those tokens is not very consistent at the least.

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