I am not clear on what you are commenting, Dennis. You are responding to what I do not believe I wrote. You did not quote the part of my message where I wrote what "I" did in the early 80's and did not say when PASCAL was available elsewhere.
"I paid no attention to where PASCAL was being used other than I did much of my grad school work in PASCAL in the early 80's including my thesis being a document that could be typeset or run from the same file ;-)" I might have encountered it in the early 70's had I had any room in my college course schedule where I ended up with a triple major in other subjects or while I was in Medical school. But no, I only went back to study C.S. afterwards. So, I apologize for being late. Heck I was also not there when ALGOL was created or FORTRAN, let alone COBOL! But if it helps, I taught FORTRAN and other languages to undergrads ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> To: python-list@python.org Sent: Sat, Mar 5, 2022 7:00 pm Subject: Re: Behavior of the for-else construct On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 21:40:08 +0000 (UTC), Avi Gross <avigr...@verizon.net> declaimed the following: >I am not sure how we end up conversing about PASCAL on a Python forum. But it >is worth considering how people educated in aspects of Computer Science often >come from somewhat different background and how it flavors what they do now. > You'd prefer REBOL, perhaps? REXX at least has some structure to it <G> NB: Pascal has, like Ada, always been a <cap><lowercase> name -- not like the origins of COBOL, FORTRAN, BASIC, et al. >I paid no attention to where PASCAL was being used other than I did much of my >grad school work in PASCAL in the early 80's including my thesis being a >document that could be typeset or run from the same file ;-) > Very early? The common versions were probably UCSD (running on UCSD P-System); or a port of the P-4 compiler (which had been published in book form) -- maybe a "tinyPascal" (integer only I suspect). Radio Shack did provide Alcor Pascal for the TRS-80. Later, you might have encountered TurboPascal -- which bore little resemblance to a Jensen&Wirth Pascal. J&W was one-program<>one-file (no link libraries, no "include" files as I recall); very limited math functions if one is trying for scientific applications (sin, cos, arctan were the trig functions I recall), and that very unfriendly I/O system (console I/O required special handling from file I/O as Pascal does a one-element pre-read when an I/O channel is opened -- which occurs on program load for stdin, much before a program could output a prompt to the user). Even my first exposure to VAX/VMS Pascal, which did allow for separate compilation and linking, required me to declare interfaces to the FORTRAN run-time library to get advanced math functions (I believe later versions incorporated the FORTRAN math natively). -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfr...@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
