" also started background scanning, but that's generally done in 30 seconds."
Do we know what PyCharm is background scanning for? Do we know what VS Code is scanning for? I've been leery of VS* things since 2013, when Microsoft (secretly) changed their VS compiler, so that every single .exe, .dll, etc that was compiled; included a tiny API call, that dialed back to Microsoft. Even a Hello-World.exe would get this telemetry API embedded. So, if you distributed executables -- MS knew right where they went to, when the user ran them. There was "outrage" when Microsoft was finally caught; and they backed off of this in the next version (I do not know if they've snuck it in again or not). But it did not raise my confidence in tools from Microsoft all that much. I love Python. I just want to add a real debugger ;-) Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:07 PM, C W <tmrs...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python > programming. > > I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the > background, even after I turned that feature off. > > My favorite (I'm using now) is VS Code with Python extension, it's very > light. Recently also started background scanning, but that's generally done > in 30 seconds. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:51 PM Michał Jaworski <swist...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> PyCharm has all these debugging capabilities and there is a community >> edition that you can use for free. If you earn for the living with Python it >> is worth investing in professional edition though. >> >> Michał Jaworski >> >>> Wiadomość napisana przez flaskee via Python-list <python-list@python.org> w >>> dniu 27.01.2021, o godz. 19:32: >>> >>> >>> While print() is groovy and all, >>> if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) >>> please let me know. >>> >>> I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!) >>> * where you can set break point(s); >>> * have the program stop right before a suspected failure point; >>> * check the contents of ALL variables, and choose whether to restart; >>> * or skip a few lines before restarting; >>> * or change a variable (hot, move back a few lines and restart, etc. >>> * Some, would even let you alter the code a bit before restarting. >>> >>> I too, miss this. >>> >>> >>> Hopefully I did not miss someone mentioning >>> such a python tool in the prior thread. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
