Chris Angelico wrote: ok, i got it to work. i noticed that there was a 3.8 version of distutils that was not upgraded to 3.9 so once i specifically pulled that in from the unstable Debian distribution then it upgraded and my creation of a new virtual environment would work without errors.
so for some reason there are some python packages in unstable that had not get gotten to testing. thanks for replying. :) for the record this was what i did: apt-get install python3-distutils -t unstable Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: libpython3-all-dbg (3.9.1-1) libpython3-all-dev (3.9.1-1) libpython3-dbg (3.9.1-1) libpython3-dev (3.9.1-1) libpython3-stdlib (3.9.1-1) python3 (3.9.1-1) python3-all (3.9.1-1) python3-all-dbg (3.9.1-1) python3-all-dev (3.9.1-1) python3-dbg (3.9.1-1) python3-dev (3.9.1-1) python3-lib2to3 (3.9.1-1) python3-minimal (3.9.1-1) python3-venv (3.9.1-1) Suggested packages: python3-doc (3.9.1-1) python3-tk (3.9.1-1) The following packages will be upgraded: libpython3-all-dbg (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) libpython3-all-dev (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) libpython3-dbg (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) libpython3-dev (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) libpython3-stdlib (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3 (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-all (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-all-dbg (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-all-dev (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-dbg (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-dev (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-distutils (3.8.6-1 => 3.9.1-1) python3-lib2to3 (3.8.6-1 => 3.9.1-1) python3-minimal (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) python3-venv (3.9.0-4 => 3.9.1-1) 15 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 222 not upgraded. songbird -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list