On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:21 AM <dc> wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:49:55 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:46 AM dc wrote:
> > > >
> > > > These are some of the command lines I've typed, and the results.  It 
> > > > looks like it's going to https://pypi.org.
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea whether that's correct, or not.
> > > >
> > > > I'm able to get past the Certificate error with other packages like 
> > > > requests.  But I just can't update pip.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That is the correct domain name. The question is, does it translate to
> > > the correct IP address? Try doing a DNS lookup and compare it to the
> > > results I got.
> > >
> > > And, don't think in terms of *getting past the error*. Try to solve
> > > the actual problem. The certificate error is protecting you against
> > > installing a forged version of PIP.
> > >
> > > ChrisA
> >
> > For pypi.org alone, my dns lookup differs from yours:  151.101.128.223.
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Is there a way to just install pip manually, and bypass all this?  I mean, 
> > if we know we're downloading it from the appropriate ftp or git site, then 
> > doesn't that in itself avoid a faulty PIP version?
> >
> 
> Ahh, I think I see what's happening. Something's interfering with your
> DNS - that's a Fastly IP address. I think the best solution would be
> to undo or bypass whatever's messing with your network, and then
> you'll be able to use pip normally without any sort of issues.
> 
> ChrisA
Which is what I thought I was trying to do.

Why does the latest Python come with an earlier version of pip, to begin with?

Maybe I can update pip on another Win10 PC, identify the changed folders, and 
copy them over.
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