On 5/19/2019 4:48 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 5:41 AM John Ladasky <john_lada...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 2:21:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Rubin wrote:
http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/05/amber-brown-batteries-included-but.html

This was a controversial talk at the Python language summit, giving
various criticisms of Python's standard library,

I will try to find some time to read through Amber Brown's remarks.

I'll make a few comments too.

I read them and the read what I concluded is yet another useless, contradictory, rant based partly on ignorance and mis-information.

You corrected some of the latter.

Brown said her point was to move asyncio to PyPI, along with most new
feature development. “We should embrace PyPI,” she exhorted.

This is the only "action item" I've found in the entire rant.

The disinformation is the implication that core developers have not embraced pypi. But anyone reading this list and python-ideas would know that it is mostly users pushing for new modules and some particular features in the stdlib and core developers saying "Whoo, we are already overloaded. Start something on pypi first and *maybe* we will consider it later."

I think her main point is that she, a twisted developer, is mad and thinks it unfair that competitor asyncio was privileged by being allowed to be developed in the stdlib. Hence, "Ever since asyncio was announced she has had to explain why Twisted is still worthwhile". And hence her wish that it, in particular, be relegated to being one competitor among others on pypi.


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