Two minor typos: platform tag should be separated by "-", not "_".
Also it makes sense to use "amd64" instead of "x86_64", so platform
can be just split by "_"
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 9:29 PM Alexander Revin <lyss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been thoroughly reading various discussions, such as [1], [2] and
> related ones regarding PEP 425, PEP 491 and PEP 513. I also happen to
> use musl sometimes, so as discussed here [3] I thought it would be a
> good idea to submit a new PEP regarding musl compatibility.
>
> It's not a secret that everyday wheel usage on Linux is far from
> perfect. Some packages are trying to compile when there's no compiler
> on the system available, some rely on 3rd-party deps and explode when
> they cannot find required headers installed and so on. Add to this
> cross-compilation support (quite complicated) and distros like Alpine
> or just something not using x86 (how many piwheels.org-like should
> emerge for each non-x86 platform?). For example, I would like to
> seamlessly install numpy, pandas and scikit onto ppc machine running
> Gentoo musl and not waste 1 hour for compilation, or "just" use them
> in x86 standard alpine-based docker image (basically what [3] is all
> about).
>
> Long story short, current wheel filename format:
>
> {distribution}-{version}(-{build tag})?-{python tag}-{abi
> tag}-{platform tag}.whl.
>
> Doesn't not properly express package expectation. Let's take a look at
> pandas wheels ([4]):
>
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-win_amd64.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-macosx_10_6_intel.macosx_10_9_intel.macosx_10_9_x86_64.macosx_10_10_intel.macosx_10_10_x86_64.whl
>
> I see issues with each of them:
> 1. First one won't work on Alpine or any musl-based distro;
> 2. Second – how amd64 is different from x86_64?
> 3. Third's platform tag is just a nightmare.
>
> More of that, if you open the last one and inspect one of the
> libraries, you'll find that:
> $ file _libs/algos.cpython-36m-darwin.so
> _libs/algos.cpython-36m-darwin.so: Mach-O universal binary with 2
> architectures: [i386:Mach-O bundle i386] [x86_64]
> _libs/algos.cpython-36m-darwin.so (for architecture i386): Mach-O bundle i386
> _libs/algos.cpython-36m-darwin.so (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O
> 64-bit bundle x86_64
>
> It's universal library! So not x86_64 only, as mentioned in the quite
> long macosx_10_various platform tag.
>
> TL;DR What my solution? To use something widely called "Target
> Triplet" [5], omitting usual "vendor" field, so
> {platform tag} from PEP 435 will have the format of <arch>_<os>[_<env>]:
>
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-x86_64_linux_gnu.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-x86_64_linux_musl.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-x86_windows.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-x86_64_windows_msvs2010.whl
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m-x86_macosx_10_6.whl <-- won't be used for
> anything Mojave+, see [6]
> pandas-0.24.1-cp36-cp36m_aarch64_netbsd.whl
>
> Primary concerns here:
> - Arch and os are specified more consistently;
> - Environment is specified only when needed;
> - Lots of possible combinations of os and env are possible :)
>
> Since most runtimes are hardcoded during build time anyway and changed
> for each Python release, explicit versioning shouldn't be a problem.
>
> JavaScript and Rustlang [7] use similar naming scheme. Though I don't
> like both of them, at least portability of extensions looks less
> broken than of Python (I've worked on native Nodejs extension in the
> past).
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> [1]
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/distutils-...@python.org/thread/KCLRIN4PTUGZLLL7GOUM23S46ZZ2D4FU/
> [2] https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/issues/69
> [3] https://github.com/pypa/manylinux/issues/37
> [4] https://pypi.org/project/pandas/#files
> [5] https://wiki.osdev.org/Target_Triplet
> [6] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
> [7] https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/conditional-compilation.html
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