Stefan Ram wrote: ... thank you. :)
as references those are useful, but howabout something a bit more conceptual or design oriented? i have a pretty good idea about various language features or things to try, but i need a little more higher level view of how to go about building a python program. i can hack stuff together and it works, but it doesn't look pretty... :) songbird -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
