On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:48 PM Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:36 PM Ian Kelly <ian.g.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So, Chris, what have *you personally* done about real slavery where it > > still happens? > > > > If, as I'm guessing, the answer is "nothing" then it seems to me that > > you don't have much of a leg to stand on to level this accusation. > > Am I demanding that the terminology be changed? No? Then I don't think > the accusation applies.
You're objecting to people trying to do *something* positive on the grounds that they're not doing *more* while you yourself are doing *nothing*. That's pretty hypocritical. > > Imagine if the terminology were instead "dominant / submissive". > > Without meaning to assume too much, might the cultural context > > surrounding those terms make you feel uncomfortable when using them? > > Would you desire for something else to be used in their place? Well, > > there are plenty of people who feel exactly that way about "master / > > slave". > > I wouldn't care. Then why not just use those terms instead? > > Here's the reality: the change may be difficult for some while it's > > happening, because people don't like being told that the way they're > > accustomed to doing something is harmful. But a few years from now, > > after everything has settled, nobody will be looking back at this and > > saying "oh, I wish we still used master/slave in the documentation. > > Primary/replica (or whatever else replaces it) just doesn't sound as > > good." > > > > Honestly, it's absurd that this is even a debate. Let's just make the > > change and get it over with. > > And what happens when "replica" becomes pejorative? Do we change words again? I think it's pretty obvious why "slave" has a negative connotation. Why on Earth would "replica" ever become pejorative? I suppose in that case we would curse Philip K. Dick and start over again. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
