On 25/05/2018 16:40, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2018 22:46:37 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

We've already had a suggestion for [[]]@5 and that should deal with that
issue. Steven is proposing "multiply by copying" as an alternative to
"multiply by referencing", so an alternative multiplication operator
should fit that correctly. Steve, I don't want to speak for you; can you
confirm or deny acceptance of the matmul operator as a better spelling?

I thought that ** would be less controversial than @ since that's much
newer. Silly me.

Personally, I don't care much either way. Probably a microscopic
preference for @ over ** since it is shorter, but not enough to matter.

The usefulness of * with lists is seriously compromised by the inability
to copy mutable items in the list. Consequently, it is an on-going gotcha
and pain point.

On the other hand, it is arguable that what we really need is a standard
function to return an N-dimensional array/list:

# return a 3x4x5x6 4-D list initialised to all zeroes
arr = list.dimensions(3, 4, 5, 6, initial=0.0)
What stops you just writing such a function?

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