On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 05:33 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-10-06, Marko Rauhamaa <ma...@pacujo.net> wrote: > >> The reason a daemon usually opens dummy file descriptors for the 0, 1 >> and 2 slots is to avoid accidents. Some library might assume the >> existence of those file descriptors. For example, I often see GTK print >> out diagnositic messages. > > I run a lot of GTK programs from the command line, and I would say 90% > or more of them spew a steady stream of meaningless (to the user) > diagnostic messages. That's pretty sloppy programming if you ask > me...
Indeed. If you ever start to doubt that the average quality of software is "crap", try running GUI applications from the command line and watch the stream of warnings and errors flow by. They range from relatively trivial warnings that correctly sized icons are missing, to scary looking warnings about uninitialised pointers. Developers: why do you bother to log warnings if you're never going to fix the damn things? They're probably to busy re-doing working programs from scratch every few versions, with a brand new "improved" UI (almost invariably including a kool new design that uses light grey text on an ever so slightly lighter grey background) and deleting any useful functionality that the lead developer personally doesn't use, because "nobody uses that". https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html -- Steve “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
