> On Sep 17, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote: > >> On 9/16/17 1:38 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> /rant on >> >> So apparently everyone who disagrees that Python should be more like >> Javascript >> is an old greybeard fuddy-duddy yelling "Get off my lawn!" to the cool kids >> -- >> and is also too stupid to know how dumb they are. >> >> "Hi, I've been programming in Python for what seems like days now, and here's >> all the things that you guys are doing wrong. I insist that you fix them >> immediately, it doesn't matter how much code it will break, that's not >> important. What is important is that Javascript programmers like me shouldn't >> be expected to learn anything new or different when they program with >> Python." >> >> /rant off >> >> And no, for once it wasn't Ranting Rick. > > The thing that struck me about the interaction (on Python-Ideas, btw) was > that Javascript actually is adding new language features at an impressive > pace, and many of them seem very Pythonic. But they sometimes choose > different syntax. > > For example, their "spread" operator is ..., where Python uses *: > > new_list = [new_start, *old_list, new_end] > > vs: > > new_array = [new_start, ...old_array, new_end] > > Making Python more like Javascript (in this case) would have required > breaking existing Python programs. Javascript could have use * as the spread > operator without breaking anyone. But they didn't, and I wonder if anyone > petitioned them to keep compatibility with Python to easy the plight of the > multi-lingual programmer. > > --Ned. > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
I came across a blog post that pointed out that those who advocate for a particular JavaScript framework probably know enough JavaScript for the framework but not enough JavaScript to figure out a problem with the framework. Since frameworks are an abstraction of JavaScript, you really need to know JavaScript to avoid getting stuck with a framework. I know enough JavaScript to get the JQuery eye candy to work and I'm confused by all the frameworks available. I picked up a JavaScript ebook to familiarize myself with the language. This isn't the same JavaScript that I learned in the early 2000's. Chris R. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
