Bryan Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't see much point in trying to convince programmers that > they don't really want concurrent threads. They really do. Some > don't know how to use them, but that's largely because they > haven't had them. I doubt a language for thread-phobes has much > of a future.
The real problem is that the concurrency models available in currently popular languages are still at the "goto" stage of language development. Better models exist, have existed for decades, and are available in a variety of languages. It's not that these languages are for "thread-phobes", either. They don't lose power any more than Python looses power by not having a goto. They languages haven't taken off for reasons unrelated to the threading model(*). The rule I follow in choosing my tools is "Use the least complex tool that will get the job done." Given that the threading models in popular languages are complex and hard to work with, I look elsewhere for solutions. I've had good luck using async I/O in lieue of theards. It's won't solve every problem, but where it does, it's much simpler to work with. <mike *) I recently saw a discussion elsehwere that touched on almost the same topic, lamenting that diagnostic tools in popular programming languages pretty much sucked, being at best no better than they were 30 years ago. The two together seem to indicate that something is fundamentally broken somewhere. -- Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list