Hello everyone, I'll step into conversation too as I think it is quite important topic. I'd be the one my collegue calls keen to this practice.
Little bit background related to this topic. It all starts from this article: http://misko.hevery.com/attachments/Guide-Writing%20Testable%20Code.pdf The guide is written in c++ in mind, yet the concepts stands for any programming language really. Read it through and think about it. If you come back to this topic and say: "yeah, but it's c++", then you haven't understood it. Steven is correct in his post, this is Dependency Injection (thanks for seeing through my suggestion, I was starting to think I'm completely crazy, now I'm just partially crazy). Create classmethod is mostly actually for convenience, especially in those cases where the class would require injecting multiple dependencies, which doesn't need to come from outside. I'm fine actually fine using default parameters. I'd like to use __new__ and __init__ here, but I haven't figured out how to do it with those in a way it's comfortable to write and read, which is usually a key point to sell a new practice and also probably a reason why create-classmethod is not popular eiher, regardless it being useful. My key goal is to maximize the control of object creation, which makes writing tests much much simpler. This is not necessarily OOP, and definitely not strict of such. It comes from the above article and that it is following pretty strictly in a sense. I have at least found it very useful practice to have no logic in constructors. Mock library is definitely powerful mechanism to solve some probelms in Python for testability, but it can (if not carefuly how to write classes you are going to test) make tests very hard to read and if you want to treat your tests as documentation, it is unacceptable. In order to write a code that just solves the problem, none of those patterns are needed. To solve a problem in a manner that it's possible to return to it later on, then these patterns start to matter. Br, Teppo -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
