On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:42:16 PM UTC+12, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> > I'm quite sure there are Java bindings for all those protocols.
Are any of these supported by the Java app in question? Doesn’t seem like it. >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are >> designed for humans, not computers, to use. > > Automation doesn't simulate button presses or anything like that: the > automate objects expose higher level user actions. E.g. the web browser > object has a navigate method and that sort of thing. In other words, the GUI becomes less and less relevant to this use case. > The classic automation example is embedding a chunk of an Excel > spreadsheet in the middle of a Word document, so it's displayed with > Word's fonts and formatting, but when you change a number in the > spreadsheet segment, the formulas run and the other numbers change. > What happens there is Word collects the numbers you type, then calls the > Excel automation interfaces to update the relevant spreadsheet cells and > read back new numbers. There are various hacks in KDE, Gnome, etc. to > do similar things under Linux. It's all transparent to the user and > presents useful features. That’s not “automation”, that’s “compound documents”. For some reason this facility gets very little use these days. >> GUIs are the end of the abstraction chain: you cannot build anything >> more on top of them. > > IMHO you're not contributing useful insights through these incorrect > guesses about how Windows automation works. Has anybody contributed a non-problematic solution yet? Precisely. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
