Darren Dale wrote: > Thanks, I didnt realize that \r is different from \n.
\r has is a byte with value 13, which is the Carriage Return (CR) control character in ASCII. \n has value 10 and is the Line Feed (LF) character. CR is named after the old teletypewriter operation involving moving the "carriage" back to one edge to restart typing text. It wasn't very useful without also moving to a new line (unless you wanted to cut your paper by repeatedly printing a line of hyphens), which is what LF was used for -- like rotating the platen (I think that's the word) on a typewriter up one line. Hitting the arm on a typewriter is like a CR plus a LF together, and this is immortalized in the CR/LF combination required still under Microsoft's most advanced operating systems, long after it's no longer necessary to have the two distinct characters. (<sigh>) Most operating systems have adopted the combined behaviour (go to start of line, move down one line) together under the LF character, since ASCII doesn't have a single "new line" character (though VT or Vertical Tab has been proposed for that since it has no other practical use these days). The CR character still generally does the "go to start of line" operation when used in the console, so it's pretty handy to "overwrite the previous line" as you wanted to. In rare situations, such as terminal software like Hyperterm, LF doesn't necessarily take you back to the start of a line but merely moves you down a single line at the same column position, much like its original/intended behaviour. -waxing-historically-and-97-percent-accurately y'rs, Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
