On Sat, 7 May 2016 06:35 am, beliav...@aol.com wrote: > This not "equal opportunity". It is a quota system.
I must ask, what do you think the phrase "quota system" means? Who is setting and enforcing this quota, and given that only about 1 in 20 Python programmers is a woman, do you think men are seriously missing out on any opportunities? > It's my > impression that in the U.S., Asians are over-represented among programmers > relative to their share of the population and that whites and especially > blacks are under-represented. Should we impose racial quotas on questions > at conferences and call that "equal opportunity" as well? I don't know. Are there systematic social forces that discourage whites or blacks from taking up programming? With an AOL email address, you're probably in the USA, and with an email username like "beliavsky" I'm guessing you're probably Chinese. Nah just kidding, you're probably of Eastern European or Russian ancestry, and probably very white indeed. - Do you feel systematically excluded and biased against because of your skin colour? - Do white-fellas like yourself find yourself repeatedly missing out on opportunities because employers and managers bypass you as soon as they realise you are white? - When you do manage to find a job, do you feel that employers and managers consistently hold you to a higher standard than your Asian colleagues, expecting you to work twice as hard to get half the recognition? - Do you get patronised by your colleagues because you're just a whitey? - Do you find that there is a systematic and repeating assumption that white-fellas like you can't program? Do people review your code with "It's not bad, for a whitey"? - Do you find that even when you are on an hourly rate, not a salary, you consistently get offered lower pay for the same work as your Asian colleagues? - During staff meetings and conferences, do you find that your Asian colleagues form cliques that exclude you, preventing you from establishing the sort of networks that a professional needs? If you can answer "Yes" to four or more of those questions, then perhaps there is a case for something to combat the overwhelming anti-white racism that you're suffering from. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
