On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 12:41:32 PM UTC-5, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/04/2016 03:21 AM, m wrote: > > W dniu 03.01.2016 o 05:43, Ben Finney pisze: > >> That and other vendor-locked workflow aspects of GitHub makes it a poor > >> choice for communities that want to retain the option of control over > >> their processes and data. > > > > I'm also afraid that Github will make to git the same thing as Google > > did to Jabber/XMPP. > > > > Decade ago, I had plenty of friends on my jabber contacts list. Next, > > Google made it's talk compatible with jabber, then my friends slowly > > migrated to gtalk, because if they used gmail anyway, then why not use > > it also for jabber? > > > > And then Google turned off XMPP support and suddenly I lost ability to > > contact with 80% of my friends without having stupid hangouts running, > > or without falling back to email (which is not so bad BTW). > > I use gtalk with Pidgin every day using XMPP. So Google still supports > XMPP. However what they stopped doing was allowing federated XMPP, > which pretty much breaks XMPP, at least the spirit of it. So the only > way to chat with gtalk users is to use your gtalk account. But you > certainly don't need hangouts. XMPP works fine between your client and > the Google server. > > I agree that Google really pulled a bad one with gtalk though. Dropping > federated XMPP support was definitely not in keeping with their original > "do no evil" mantra. > > > The same can be with Github and git. PPL will forget how to use git > > without github. When Github will make git-incompatible changes, vast > > majority will need/want to follow the changes and eg. will use Gitlabs > > propertiary binary. > > Yup you are correct. However for the foreseeable future, you can still > do a git clone from github, and you can still use your local repository > normally. In fact I think this is really part of the github workflow. > But who knows what the future will bring. I can sure see the wisdom of > the GPLv3 as we move into a world of software as a service, where even > Microsoft uses Linux, and charges us for it.
about: > PPL will forget how to use git without github. We cannot forget what we never learned. git is way to complicated for regular users without support like what github provides. I haven't done a merge without the Green Button in a long time. And when I did I always had to triple check to make sure to avoid any mistakes. I never needed to check what a pull request would be in pure git. Josef -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
