Christian Gollwitzer <aurio...@gmx.de> writes: > There are layers. Below your Python code there is CPython, below that > the C compiler, the OS, and finally the hardware.
Yes. There are continual motivations to take the technology at any of those levels and make it less free, make it more locked to single vendors, make it more difficult to migrate our valuable data to a system under our control. Asserting that one level is currently less free, is in no measure an argument to allow a different level to be moved further from the community's control. > At some point, nobody cares. You clearly do care, since you are participating in this discussion and attempting to argue that people *should not* care. > In former times, people sent emails with patches attached. Nobody > complains that those emails are lost to the community. You make my point for me: Nothing about that method of transferring code changes was actively controlled by a single vendor, nor gratuitously centralised, nor handed to an unexaminable, unaccountable system. > Then somebody invented VCS and all became better. Pull requests are > nothing but elaborated emails. Email is decentralised; it has no gratuitous barriers between diverse implementations of the standards; it has standards that are energetically guarded against vendor lock-in. Anyone can take email data from the email server, migrate it to a different implementation of the same email system, keep it running with the same data and allow the same people to continue interacting with it as before. Those are traits I think a community should require of any system that controls vital discussions like pull requests. If GitHub pull requests could be verified to work that way, I would have no complaint here. Until they do, it is foolish for a community to willingly put their correspondence data into it. -- \ “Come on Milhouse, there’s no such thing as a soul! It’s just | `\ something they made up to scare kids, like the Boogie Man or | _o__) Michael Jackson.” —Bart, _The Simpsons_ | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list