Thank you sir @Chris Warrick for your great suggestion, even though I really got overwhelmed by the things that I need to study to get this project done. I'm really new to programming so I havent heard or even tried DJANGO, but on your suggestion, if thats what I need to get my project done, that would I do. It would really take alot of time for me to finish this project, but thank you man, I really appreciate your help
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Leonard Andrew Mesiera < leonardmesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you sir @Chris Warrick for your great suggestion, even though I > really got overwhelmed by the things that I need to study to get this > project done. I'm really new to programming so I havent heard or even > tried DJANGO, but on your suggestion, if thats what I need to get my > project done, that would I do. It would really take alot of time for me to > finish this project, but thank you man, I really appreciate your help > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Chris Warrick <kwpol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 7 November 2015 at 15:44, <leonardmesi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > How do you start building a desktop application in python? I mean where >> do I start? Besides installing python on your windows what else do I need, >> and any suggestion on how do I accomplish this project. >> > >> > Right now I really want to finish this beauty pageant judging system >> which requires to have a client and a server, client would be for the >> judges and a server that computes the scores from all the categories, (i do >> hope you get I want mean by that project). I just finished reading >> Headfirst Python and I really loving this language, so any help from all >> the great programmers here would be so great. >> > -- >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >> >> This project requires two very different components, or one monolithic >> server. >> >> The first one is the server. It basically needs to talk to clients >> (via HTTP) and to a database. This is a trivial app to write in your >> favorite web framework, eg. Django [0]. Come up with a good database >> structure (read the excellent tutorial and documentation, should get >> you there), write some models. But you can’t write your views just >> yet. Because the views you write depend strictly on the client. >> >> For the client, you basically have two choices: >> (a) write a web application in Django; >> (b) use a GUI framework and make a standalone desktop application. >> >> If you choose option (a), you need to learn HTML/CSS and write the >> views for your Django application (or use a ready-made front-end >> framework, eg. Bootstrap [1]). This is the simplest choice, and it >> takes a lot of work away from you. Your users will use their favorite >> web browser to access the voting system, log in, and make their votes, >> and there is no special setup for them (apart from giving them >> credentials to access your app). Your Django views will use the >> built-in Django templating, forms, and is relatively simple to do >> (might even be doable in a weekend). >> >> Route (b) is much more complicated. To follow this route, you need to >> pick a GUI framework. There are also multiple options, I personally >> recommend PySide, but you could also try wxWidgets, pygobject or kivy. >> The web app side of things will require serializing data to JSON and >> writing a RESTful API, but there are ready-made solutions for many web >> frameworks [2]. >> But most of those come with a catch: they usually make you produce >> ugly code, because they are wrappers around ugly C++ APIs. And then >> you need to write code to talk to your HTTP server. You can’t use the >> beautiful requests library, because it will block — so there’s more >> work ahead, unless you want your app to be unresponsive every time you >> talk to the server. For example, in Qt, you would need to use Qt >> networking capabilities (which work asynchronously within the event >> loop), or some other implementation that you can use asynchronously >> (eg. Twisted, but then you lock yourself to Python 2, which is bad, or >> threading, which has its limitations…) >> And then you need to distribute your app to your users. Which is >> already hard, because you need to coordinate Python, your GUI >> framework, and your app. Are your users on Windows, Linux, or OS X? If >> you have at least one person on a platform, you will need some sort of >> testing environment… >> >> And no matter which route you choose, you can’t do much without a >> Linux server, so there’s more learning to do. >> >> Sadly, developing big things is hard and requires a lot of knowledge — >> especially if you’re a one-man-band. >> Here’s a short list of skills you need, with a subjectively suggested >> implementation and ease of implementation: >> >> * understanding of the HTTP protocol (*) >> * web application development (Django *) >> * database schema writing (planning out the structure + Django ORM **) >> * app server setup (uWSGI + nginx + Linux ***) >> * database setup (PostgreSQL *** or something simpler[3]) >> * Route A: >> * HTML/CSS skills; a front-end framework (Bootstrap **) >> * Route B: >> * RESTful APIs (Django REST Framework ***/***** if you use OAuth) >> * GUI framework (PyQt ****) >> * talking to your server from within the framework (****/*****) >> >> [0]: https://www.djangoproject.com/ >> [1]: http://getbootstrap.com/ >> [2]: http://www.django-rest-framework.org/ >> [3]: If this is going to be VERY small, you could go with a sqlite >> database, which requires zero setup, but which is not suited for >> anything more serious. >> >> Other learning materials: >> >> >> https://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorials/Django_and_nginx.html >> http://www.fullstackpython.com/ >> http://deploypython.com/ >> >> On 8 November 2015 at 02:50, Michael Torrie <torr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On 11/07/2015 12:15 PM, paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Where would you say that web2py <http://www.web2py.com/> fits into >> this mix >> >> of tools? >> > >> > I am not familiar with it but I know it's supposed to be a lightweight >> > framework for developing web-based sites and applications. Could be an >> > excellent tool for the OP to use to build his user interface. >> > >> > -- >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >> >> web2py is weird, Django is more fun. >> >> -- >> Chris Warrick <https://chriswarrick.com/> >> PGP: 5EAAEA16 >> > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
