Hallöchen! Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] >> >> Because such projects attract the greatest number of developers, >> many of them being amongst the most diligent developers, too. I >> expect this to have a positive influence of the language. > > You didn't answer the question about how you define agile > project. Please do so if you expect a comment on this. Projects with a high Sourceforge activity index. > [...] > >> Yes, this is what I meant with "legacy code". C and C++ are >> actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a >> computer but not for implementing an idea. Their current >> vitality on almost all software areas arise from the fact that >> they had been extremely successful before Java, C#, and VB came >> into play. Invented today, they would be niche languages. > > This is patently absurd. C and C++ were born as general-purpose > languages. Changing the environment around them isn't going to > change that. In 1955 people would have told you that Fortran is general-purpose. It's not the case any more. > [...] > >>>> Legacy code is not a sign of success IMO because it implies a >>>> difficult future. >>> >>> So you're saying that Python, Perl, Linux, the various BSD >>> et. al. will have a difficult future? [...] >> >> No. All I said was that if a language's "success" relies almost >> exclusively on the heavy presence of legacy code, its future is >> difficult. I see this for C and C++ excluding VC++. > > Well, you lumped all C/C++ code a legacy code. No because ... > [...] > > You can't have it both ways. Either C/C++ is all legacy code, or > it's not. ... is wrong in my opinion. Why should this be? > [...] > > I think you need to come out from behind your Windows box for a > while. But you did read my headers? ;-) > There are *lots* of applications areas that don't need GUIs, > and don't run on Windows. This becomes a discussion about estimates we both don't know exactly, and weight differently, so I'll leave it here. Tschö, Torsten. -- Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list