Dark Cowherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Being able to write a usable GUI is key task for all programmers today
No, it isn't. I'm a programmer. I never get paid to write usable GUIs. Most of my programs don't have a GUI at all. For those that do, I get paid to write a functional GUI. Clients that want a usable GUI are told up front they'll have to pay someone else - who may not be a programmer - to provide that. If you said "most" - well, I still don't think I'd agree with you, but at I wouldn't have so directly disagreed. The team I'm currently working on has about a half dozen programmers, only one of whom needs to be able to write a usable GUI. Now, when it comes to writing tools for me, I've written some things that have what I consider to be *very* usable GUIs - much more usable than anything I've ever seen on a Mac or Windows box. But gods forbid end users should ever have to deal with them. > You can for example tie a dataset with a chart and grid on the same > screen. Type in the grid and see the chart change. All this with zero > code. Made my eyes bug out the first time I saw this. PyQt has this kind of functionality. I first saw it in boopsie, back in the late 80s. It is pretty cool. > I really think that the community needs a lot more of STANDARDS not > a STANDARD GUI Standards happen in one of two ways. Either an 800-lb gorrilla establishes them by fiat, or a group of people interested in having their code play well together hashes out something after they've all taken a crack at implementing it. The latter is slowly happening in the Python community. But it's a slow process. <mike -- Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list