El sábado, 1 de agosto de 2015, 18:45:17 (UTC+2), Mark Lawrence escribió: > On 01/08/2015 17:07, Javier wrote: > > > > Asyncio is a crazy headache! I realized that I can't use asyncio tcp > > servers with pickle! Asyncio is good as a concept but bad in real life. > > > > I think python's non blocking I/O is far from being something useful for > > developers till non-async code can invoke async code transparently. > > Duplicating all code/libs when you realize that something not fits asyncio > > is not a solution and even less a pythonic solution. > > > > I'll keep my eyes open for your solution on pypi as clearly you know > better than the Python core developers. Fully documented and tested of > course. > > -- > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > what you can do for our language. > > Mark Lawrence
Don't be rascal, friend. Nobody thinks that self is better than core developers, and personaly I don't think I am better than anybody, but, I have my own opinion. The fact that the core team is better at python coding and compilers than me does not mean that her implementation fits my needs/opinion. I dont like the current event loop implementation (plus yield from): - It forces me to use beta libraries for doing something that another production ready library already does, - I can't use one of the most awesome python features: yielding between generators and coroutines - As you said, I'm not as smart as they are but I thought python is for everybody, not only for them. Should I ask them how can I use pickle with streamreader? I think it would be better if it would become trivial. I read PEPs. I don't imagine a good users community if all of us would have to read the pythons source code to understand how to use new features or rewrite a new implementation proposal to be allowed to tell our opinion, as you claims, I would like that all the code would run on event loop, but till then I just believe that event loop should be a native feature, not a python hack. I believe that we should be able to call asyncio functions without doing "yield from" through all the stack. I believe that It's possible an implementation that allows generators for processing data streams and that allows to mix classic code with loop code. And finally I claim a place for not super-level pythoners that want to talk about features improvement without being asked for a reference implementation, each of us have our own role. :) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
