On 21/07/2015 10:10, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Laura Creighton <l...@openend.se>:

In a message of Mon, 20 Jul 2015 20:30:48 -0700, Rustom Mody writes:

Can some unicode/Chinese literate person inform me whether that
ideograph is equivalent to roman '9' or roman 'nine'?

Ah, I don't understand you. What do you mean roman 'nine'? a phonetic
way of saying things? What bankers use to help prevent forgeries?
Something else?

This is getting deep. It is an embarrassing metamathematical fact that
numbers cannot be defined. At least, mathematicians gave up trying a
century ago.

    In mathematics, the essence of counting a set and finding a result n,
    is that it establishes a one to one correspondence (or bijection) of
    the set with the set of numbers {1, 2, ..., n}.
    <URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting#Counting_in_mathematics>

Our ancestors defined the fingers (or digits) as "the set of numbers."
Modern mathematicians have managed to enhance the definition
quantitatively but not qualitatively.


Not all of them http://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-paici/en/pri/

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