Would it be prudent to rid the long-standing "argument" (pun unintended) about self and the ulterior spellings of it, by changing it into a symbol rather than a name?
Something like: class MyClass(object): def __init__(@): @.dummy = None OR, even better, getting *rid of it* in the parameter list, so it stops confusing people about how many parameters a method needs, and transform it into a true *operator*. class MyClass(object): def __init__(): #takes no arguments! @.dummy = None #the @ invokes the class object's dictionary That would seem to be a nice solution to the problem, really. It doesn't become PERLish because you've made it into a genuine operator -- "self" was always a non-variable that looked like a variable and hence created an itch that couldn't be scratched. Anyone else have any thoughts? --mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list