[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At top of a module I have an integer like so... > > foo = 4 > > In a function in that module I know I need to do 'global foo' to get at > the value 4. > ...
You don't. You need the global declaration to *set* the value of "foo" in the module's namespace. When getting the value of "foo" within the function, if it's not been defined in the function's local namespace, it automatically looks in the global namespace with or without the "global foo" declaration. When assigning a value to the name "foo" within the function, however, without the global declaration, the value will only be assigned to the name "foo" within the local namespace. http://docs.python.org/ref/naming.html > IIRC, for dictionaries you DO NOT have this issue? > > Why this scope problem with integers but not dictionaries? I presume you are trying code like the following: foo = 4 bar = {} def fun1(): foo = 5 def fun2(): bar['baz'] = 4 Since integers are immutable, all that fun1() does is assign 5 to the name "foo" within fun1()'s namespace and doesn't touch the module-level namespace. fun2(), on the other hand, only gets the dictionary from the module-level namespace with the name "bar". Then it modifies that dictionary (since it's mutable). It does not try to assign a new object to the name "bar". I hope that's clear, but I'm pretty tired right now, and it may not be. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] "In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die." -- Richard Harter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
