On 2015-01-22 03:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In 2009, Robert Martin gave a talk at RailsConf titled "What Killed > Smalltalk Could Kill Ruby".
Holy pacing, Batman. Watching it at 2x leaves me wondering how much of the stage was worn off during the presentation. > And now it's all but dead. Why did it die, and how can Python (or > Ruby for that matter) avoid the same fate? In my experience, most Python has a particularly low WTF-per-minute score. But mostly Michael's reply addresses my biggest pain points the last couple times I tried Smalltalk: The whole "images" thing impeded me from easily using my development preferred environment. With Python, I can just install it and then either fire up the REPL, or type some code into a file and run it (same I suppose would go for Ruby). I fought for over an hour trying to figure out how to just get ANYTHING to run in Smalltalk. I installed Squeak on Debian and yet I couldn't get any code examples to run. I had to go find some environments on the web, download them, modify them, and eventually something ran. Eventually I just gave up and returned to a world where everything made sense. -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
