Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > Okay. While a path has its clear use cases and those don't need above methods, > it may be that some brain-dead functions needs them.
"brain-dead"? Consider this code, which I think is not atypical. import sys def _read_file(filename): if filename == "-": # Can use '-' to mean stdin return sys.stdin else: return open(filename, "rU") def file_sum(filename): total = 0 for line in _read_file(filename): total += int(line) return total (Actually, I would probably write it def _read_file(file): if isinstance(file, basestring): if filename == "-": # Can use '-' to mean stdin return sys.stdin else: return open(filename, "rU") return file ) Because the current sandbox Path doesn't support the is-equal test with strings, the above function won't work with a filename = path.Path("-"). It will instead raise an exception saying IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '-' (Yes, the code as-is can't handle a file named '-'. The usual workaround (and there are many programs which support '-' as an alias for stdin) is to use "./-" % cat > './-' This is a file % cat ./- This is a file % cat - I'm typing directly into stdin. ^D I'm typing directly into stdin. % ) If I start using the path.Path then in order to use this function my upstream code must be careful on input to distinguish between filenames which are really filenames and which are special-cased pseudo filenames. Often the code using the API doesn't even know which names are special. Even if it is documented, the library developer may decide in the future to extend the list of pseudo filenames to include, say, environment variable style expansion, as $HOME/.config Perhaps the library developer should have come up with a new naming system to include both types of file naming schemes, but that's rather overkill. As a programmer calling the API should I convert all my path.Path objects to strings before using it? Or to Unicode? How do I know which filenames will be treated specially through time? Is there a method to turn a path.Path into the actual string? str() and unicode() don't work because I want the result to be unicode if the OS&Python build support it, otherwise string. Is that library example I mentioned "brain-dead"? I don't think so. Instead I think you are pushing too much for purity and making changes that will cause problems - and hard to fix problems - with existing libraries. Here's an example of code from an existing library which will break in several ways if it's passed a path object instead of a string. It comes from spambayes/mboxutils.py ################# This is mostly a wrapper around the various useful classes in the standard mailbox module, to do some intelligent guessing of the mailbox type given a mailbox argument. +foo -- MH mailbox +foo +foo,bar -- MH mailboxes +foo and +bar concatenated +ALL -- a shortcut for *all* MH mailboxes /foo/bar -- (existing file) a Unix-style mailbox /foo/bar/ -- (existing directory) a directory full of .txt and .lorien files /foo/bar/ -- (existing directory with a cur/ subdirectory) Maildir mailbox /foo/Mail/bar/ -- (existing directory with /Mail/ in its path) alternative way of spelling an MH mailbox .... def getmbox(name): """Return an mbox iterator given a file/directory/folder name.""" if name == "-": return [get_message(sys.stdin)] if name.startswith("+"): # MH folder name: +folder, +f1,f2,f2, or +ALL name = name[1:] import mhlib mh = mhlib.MH() if name == "ALL": names = mh.listfolders() elif ',' in name: names = name.split(',') else: names = [name] mboxes = [] mhpath = mh.getpath() for name in names: filename = os.path.join(mhpath, name) mbox = mailbox.MHMailbox(filename, get_message) mboxes.append(mbox) if len(mboxes) == 1: return iter(mboxes[0]) else: return _cat(mboxes) if os.path.isdir(name): # XXX Bogus: use a Maildir if /cur is a subdirectory, else a MHMailbox # if the pathname contains /Mail/, else a DirOfTxtFileMailbox. if os.path.exists(os.path.join(name, 'cur')): mbox = mailbox.Maildir(name, get_message) elif name.find("/Mail/") >= 0: mbox = mailbox.MHMailbox(name, get_message) else: mbox = DirOfTxtFileMailbox(name, get_message) else: fp = open(name, "rb") mbox = mailbox.PortableUnixMailbox(fp, get_message) return iter(mbox) It breaks with the current sandbox path because: - a path can't be compared to "-" - range isn't supported, as "name = name[1:]" note that this example uses __contains__ ("," in name) Is this function brain-dead? Is it reasonable that people might want to pass a path.Path() directly to it? If not, what's the way to convert the path.Path() into the correct string object? Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list