On 01/03/2015 10:50 AM, patrick vrijlandt wrote:
Hello list,

Let me first wish you all the best in 2015!

Today I was trying to test for occurrence of a byte in a set ...

>>> sys.version
'3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)]'
>>> 'b' in 'abc'
True
>>> b'b' in b'abc'
True
>>> 'b' in set('abc')
True
>>> b'b' in set(b'abc')
False

I was surprised by the last result. What happened?
(Examples simplified; I was planning to manipulate the set)

The surprise is really that the 3rd test is True not that the fourth is False.

First, as should be expected, a byte string is a sequence of (small) ints. So b'b' is a (short) byte string and the set set(b'abc') is composed of three ints. You should not expect your inclusion test to return True when testing for a bytes-type object in a set of int-type objects. And that explains your False result in the 4th test.

>>> type(b'abc')
<class 'bytes'>
>>> type(b'abc'[0])
<class 'int'>


But things are different for strings. You might think a string is a sequence of characters, but Python does not have a character type. In fact the elements of a string are just 1 char long strings:

>>> type('abc')
<class 'str'>
>>> type('abc'[0])
<class 'str'>

You would not logically expect to find a string 'b' in a set of characters in, say C++, where the two types are different. But that's not the Python way. In Python a set of characters set('abc') is really a set of (short) strings, and the character 'b' is really a (short) string, so the inclusion test works.

Python's way of returning a 1-byte string when indexing a string (instead of returning an element of type character) allows this surprising result.

>>> 'abc'[0]
'a'
>>> 'abc'[0][0]
'a'
>>> 'abc'[0][0][0]
'a'
>>> 'abc'[0][0][0][0]
'a'
...


I've never considered this a problem, but a infinitely indexable object *is* a bit of an oddity.





Patrick

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