On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 09:47, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu>
> > To: python-list@python.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle
> >
> > On 11/10/2014 4:22 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Why do I get different output for locale.getlocale() in Idle vs. cmd.exe?
>
> <snip>
>
> >
> > Idle runs code in an environment that is slightly altered from the
> > standard python startup environment'. idlelib.IOBinding has this
> > '''
> > # Try setting the locale, so that we can find out
> > # what encoding to use
> > try:
> > import locale
> > locale.setlocale(locale.LC_CTYPE, "")
> > '''
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Thank you. Any idea why setlocale (a *setter*) returns something other
> than None?
setlocale returns the actual value that the locale was set to, which is
often (always in case of "") not the same as the value that was passed
in. The C function it is based on would return NULL on an error instead
of raising an exception.
>>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_CTYPE,"")
'en_US.UTF-8'
(this question is not related to the (None, None) thing of
> getlocale, just curious). Would it be a good idea to put this setlocale
> line in site.py? Or should it be in __init__.py to make the code more
> portable?
>
> > idlelib.run, which runs in the user-code subprocess, imports IOBinding.
> > Setting LC_CTYPE is sufficient for getlocale() to not return null values.
>
> So then I would have all the locale categories of the 'bare' locale
> (sorry, I don't know what else I should call it), except for LC_CTYPE,
> which is derived from my system. So in LC_NUMERIC I'd still have the
> en_US period/comma for decimal/thousand grouping, respectively, but I
> switch to the nl_NL LC_CTYPE. I doubt if it matters, but still: will this
> not introduce an ueber hard-to-find possible bug when I use re.LOCALE?
>
> > C:\Users\Terry>python -c "import locale;
> > print(locale.getlocale())"
> >
> > (None, None)
> >
> > C:\Users\Terry>python -c "import locale;
> > locale.setlocale(locale.LC_CTYPE, ''); print(locale.getlocale())"
> > ('English_United States', '1252')
>
> What is the difference between getlocale and getdefaultlocale anyway? The
> docstrings are even partially the same. The notatation of getlocale
> appears to be OS-specific ("English_United States" in Windows) and not
> Unix-like (cf. getdefaultlocale: en_US)
>
> regards,
> Albert-Jan
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