On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:10:22 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote: > Sorry your post was the straw to break the camel's back this week, but it > is a complete pain to the rest of us. I have more than once considered > getting my reader to automatically discard anything with > "@googlegroups.com" in the message ID just to reduce the aggravation.
I had a colleague at the university who had taught "System Programming" for the fifth year running. One day he confided to us (other colleagues): I think I am losing it... I am getting impatient and am inclined to tell the class: "Ive taught all this to you (so many times!) before Until I realize its not this class!! > The wiki page https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython goes into > some detail of what the rest of us find annoying, and how to fix the > problems. So we need to... (one of) - Patiently point out that link to each newcomer here - Silently put up - Express 'last straw' irritation and get called a jerk - Canvas with python list owners to stop GG - Canvas with Google to modify else shut down GG - Your choice here > I've left the double-spacing that you quoting Mark produced so > you can see that part of the problem -- if you want to understand why it > is so hated, imagine that done to a screenful of Python script, then > quoted by a few more people on GG, until you're only getting half a dozen > lines of code (or text) on the screen. That sort of thing is hard work to > read, and not many bother, and yes, it really does happen. Its no use. GG hides all the double-spaced, top-posted stuff in a very small font "show quoted text". If you want to show it more effectively you need to do something like this (or point to the mailing list archive) > On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:52:53 +0100, Pete Bee wrote: - - - - > - - >> - - >> Just awesome, not only do we have double line spacing and single line - - >> - - >> paragraphs, we've also got top posting, oh boy am I a happy bunny :) - - >> - - >> I'll leave someone3 else to explain, I just can't be bothered. - - >> - - >> - - > - - > Do you get paid to be a jerk, or is it just for yuks? If the latter, - - > you're not funny. - - - ----------------------- > Top posting is generally poor netiquette, thank you for not doing it this > time. There are cultures -- far more pervasive than USENET in 2014 -- where top posting is the norm, eg - Gmail makes top posting the norm. Compare the figures of gmail and Usenet users - Corporate cultures more or less require top posting -- helped by MS Outlook Else it looks like dishonesty/dissimulation/hiding - Personally I am on different groups. I tend to top post by default. And its as strange and bizarre there as its required minimum etiquette here > Unfortunately you fell into another trap GG lays for you by not > handling attributions properly. Or at all this time. [Personally] Double spacing bothers me least, top posting more, non/mis-attribution most -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list