Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>: > Wrong. If the two objects are not the same, then they will have > different ID values. If the ID values are the same, then you've only > got one object.
Ok, that circularity again. Say I implement Python. Say I returned a random number for id(), how would that violate the language spec? It would violate the spec. But there would have to be a paragraph in the specification that was violated or a reference test case that failed. For example, this test would demonstrate obviously invalid behavior: >>> print(id(x)) 129 >>> print(id(x)) 201 > I'm sorry, what problem are you trying to solve? I think the discussion spawned from the problem of teaching programming students the right idea of values and objects. A teacher would like to bring in advanced concepts last, but Python seems to force you to get them at the very beginning. Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list