Ian Kelly <ian.g.ke...@gmail.com>: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Marko Rauhamaa <ma...@pacujo.net> wrote: >> Thus "x and y are identical" *means* "x is y" and nothing else. > > This notion of identity sounds useless, and if that is the way you > prefer to understand it then you can safely ignore that it exists. I > think that most users though inherently understand the concept of > objects being distinct or identical and see the value in being able to > test for this.
It is not useless to identify your fundamental definitions and axioms instead of resorting to circular reasoning. The original question was how a beginning programmer could "get" lists. We very quickly descended into the murky waters of "objects" of an underlying machine and CPython's way of implementing things. I was wondering if there was a way to "get" integers, lists, references etc without hauling the poor student under the keel. In a word, could Python be your first programming language? Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
