On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:31:11 +0000, Bob Martin wrote: > in 714232 20140109 120741 Alister <alister.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:17:25 +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >>> On 09/01/2014 04:14, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Ben Finney >>>> <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I'm approaching it with the goal of knowing better what I'm talking >>>>> about when I advocate scrapping the whole DST system :-) >>>> >>>> I would definitely support the scrapping of DST. I'm less sure that >>>> we need exactly 24 timezones around the world, though. It's not >>>> nearly as big a problem to have the half-hour and quarter-hour >>>> timezones - though it would be easier if timezone were strictly an >>>> integer number of hours. But DST is the real pain. >>>> >>>> What I find, most of the time, is that it's Americans who can't >>>> handle DST. I run an international Dungeons and Dragons campaign (we >>>> play online, and new players are most welcome, as are people >>>> watching!), and the Aussies (myself included) know to check UTC time, >>>> the Brits and Europeans check UTC or just know what UTC is, and the >>>> Americans say "Doesn't that happen at 8 o'clock Eastern time?" and >>>> get confused. >>>> I don't understand this. Are my players drawn exclusively from the >>>> pool of people who've never worked with anyone in Arizona [1]? Yes, >>>> I'm stereotyping a bit here, and not every US player has had problems >>>> with this, but it's the occasional US player who knows to check, and >>>> the rare European, British, or Aussie player who doesn't. >>>> >>>> In any case, the world-wide abolition of DST would eliminate the >>>> problem. The only remaining problem would be reminding people to >>>> change the batteries in their smoke detectors. >>>> >>>> ChrisA >>>> >>>> [1] For those who aren't right up on timezone trivia, AZ has no DST. >>>> Similarly the Australian state of Queensland does not shift its >>>> clocks. >>>> >>>> >>> I remember this "From February 1968 to November 1971 the UK kept >>> daylight saving time throughout the year mainly for commercial >>> reasons, especially regarding time conformity with other European >>> countries". My source >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/time/uk/time-zone-background.html >> >>we dont have "Daylight saving time" we switch between GMT (Greenwich >>Mean Time) and BST (British Summer Time) at some point in the past we >>have also used DST (Double Summer Time). > > British Summer Time *is* Daylight Saving Time.
My point is in the UK we have never refered to it as Daylight saving Time that is an Americanism :-) -- if (argc > 1 && strcmp(argv[1], "-advice") == 0) { printf("Don't Panic!\n"); exit(42); } -- Arnold Robbins in the LJ of February '95, describing RCS -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list