On 2014-01-07 17:46, Andrew Barnert wrote:
> I think Stephen's name "7-bit" is confusing people. If you try to
> interpret the name sensibly, you get Steven's broken interpretation.
> But if you read it as a nonsense word and work through the logic, it
> all makes sense.
>
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:44, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
I was thinking about Ethan's suggestion of introducing a new bytestring
class and a lot of these suggestions are what I thought the bytestring
class could do.

[snip]
>>
>> Suppose we take a pure-ASCII byte-string and decode it:
>>
>>    b'abcd'.decode('ascii-compatible')
>>
That would be:

    bytestring(b'abcd')

or even:

    bytestring('abcd')

[snip]
>
>> Suppose we take a byte-string with a non-ASCII byte:
>>
>>    b'abc\xFF'.decode('ascii-compatible')
>>
That would be:

    bytestring(b'abc\xFF')

Bytes outside the ASCII range would be mapped to Unicode low
surrogates:

    bytestring(b'abc\xFF') == bytestring('abc\uDCFF')

[snip]
>> Presumably they will compare equal, yes?
>
> I would hope not. One of them has the Unicode character U+FF, the
> other has smuggled byte 0xFF, so they'd better not compare equal.
>
> However, the latter should compare equal to 'abc\uDCFF'. That's the
> entire key here: the new representation is nothing but a more compact
> way to represent strings that contain nothing but ASCII and surrogate
> escapes.
>
[snip]
>>
>> A concrete example:
>>
>>    s = b'abcd'.decode('ascii-compatible')
>>    t = 'x'  # ASCII-compatible
>>    s + t
>>    => returns 'abcdx', with the "7-bit repr" flag cleared.

    s = bytestring(b'abcd')
    t = 'x'  # ASCII-compatible
    s + t
    => returns 'abcdx'
>
> Right. Here both s and t are normal 8-bit strings reprs in the first
> place, so the new logic doesn't even get invoked. So yes, that's what
> it returns.
>
>>    s = b'abcd'.decode('ascii-compatible')
>>    t = 'ÿ'  # U+00FF, non-ASCII.
>>
>>    s + t
>>    => returns 'abcd\uDCFF', with the "7-bit repr" flag set

    s = bytestring(b'abcd')
    t = 'ÿ'  # U+00FF, non-ASCII.
    s + t
    => returns 'abcd\xFF'

[snip]
There were also some other equivalences I was considering:

    bytestring(b'abc') == b'abc'
    bytestring(b'abc') == 'abc'

The problem there is that it wouldn't be transitive because:

    b'abc' != 'abc'
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