On 11/27/13 3:44 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com
<mailto:n...@nedbatchelder.com>> wrote:

        * Is there perhaps a better way to achieve what I'm trying to do?

        What I'm really after, is to check that python expressions
        embedded in text files are:
        - well behaved (no syntax errors etc)
        - don't accidentally access anything it shouldn't
        - I serve them with the values they need on execution


    I hope you aren't trying to prevent malice this way: you cannot
    examine a piece of Python code to prove that it's safe to execute.
      For an extreme example, see: Eval Really Is Dangerous:
    http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/__201206/eval_really_is___dangerous.html
    <http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201206/eval_really_is_dangerous.html>

    In your environment it looks like you have a whitelist of
    identifiers, so you're probably ok.


I just tested the crash example from that link in Python 2.7.5 win64 and
the co_names from the compiled code is empty. Therefore, a simple
whitelist would not catch that problematic code (and likely any other
global access done correctly). Even a simple test of making sure that at
least one (or any number of) valid identifier exists would be
insufficent, as you can merely tack on a ",a" to add "a" to the
co_names, and thus for any other variable.

Ah, right you are! I neglected to go back and examine the dangerous code. So eval really is dangerous!

--Ned.


Basically, even with a pure whitelist, there is likely no possible way
to make eval/exec safe, unless you also eliminate the ability to make
literals.

Chris




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