On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:32 AM, Dan Wissme <wis...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi !
> Am I the only one to get a bug in GUIs using tkinter on my Mac under maverick 
> and Python 3.3.3 ?
> When will they get rid of Tcl/Tk which causes recurrent problems at almost 
> each new Python version !
> Please, for the rest of us...

I’m curious, if they get rid of Tcl/Tk as you wished, what do you propose 
replacing it with?

It’s not like there are other “light weight cross platform ui frameworks” that 
are obvious replacements. Most of the others are far heavier. And all have 
issues with their purported cross platformness.

Or are you proposing that Tcl/Tk be moved out of the python core distro, and 
instead delivered as a separate package? If *this* is your proposal, I 
wholeheartedly agree. Just the other day, I was working on putting python3 on a 
beaglebone black (similar to a raspberry pi). It built OK, but I had to ignore 
lots of warnings about Tcl/Tk not working, which of course was a “duh”.

I was surprised, that among some, there’s a sentiment that python core MUST 
include it. Which was interesting. One of the core principles of this language 
is all about modules and modularity. Why can’t the Tcl/Tk module be the same as 
numpy and scipy and many of the other widely 
installed-after-the-fact-as-appropriate packages?
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