On 10/10/2013 2:45 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Peter Cacioppi
<peter.cacio...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying to think of a good example usage of echo-argument and. Maybe 
something like

A bit awkward, echo-argument or is more naturally useful to me then 
echo-argument and.

first_element = some_list[0]    # Oops, may crash

some_list[0:1] always works, and sometimes is usable, but you still cannot index the slice.

try:
     first_element = some_list[0]
except IndexError:
     firstelement = None   # A bit verbose

first_element = some_list and some_list[0]

# or if you want a zero instead of an empty list:
first_element = len(some_list) and some_list[0]


Also, consider the case where you have a function, or None:

result = func(*args,**kwargs)   # NoneType is not callable

result = func and func(*args,**kwargs)

y = x and 1/x
One just has to remember that y==0 effectively means y==+-infinity ;-).

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Terry Jan Reedy

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