> As complexity rises, though, I'd rather just code the creative parts > of things, and not busy-code, which is what gui code becomes. Much > of it is boiler-plate, cut and pasted, etc.
If much of the code for a GUI is boiler-plate, busy-code etc. than I would suggest that the framework is not really as efficient as it should be. In fact that's one of the issues I still have with Python: The language in general is very efficient, allows to do a lot with very little code. But all GUI frameworks that I had a look at seem to be not "pythonic" at all in this regard. Except for PyGUI maybe, but that's far from being as extensive as wxPython or PyQt. So for GUI applications, Python doesn't seem to have any advantage over #ยง$%&! like C++ etc. concerning code efficiency. X-( Sincerely, Wolfgang -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list