Stephen Kellett wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Wankus > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> Have you ever tried anything that provides real, usable refactoring >> like Eclipse does with Java? I guarantee if you used it more than a >> few times your view would most likely change. > > > I was forced to use Eclipse recently. Dreadful. I really disliked it. I > never got as far as wanting to refactor things. I couldn't wait to stop > using it. > >> The fact is, code evolves. You simply cannot write high-quality >> software in one pass. > > > Total agreement. My point is that productivity gains from refactoring > tools are the least of your worries. Hiring good staff that know how to > write, test and debug software is very much more important than the > amount of time a refactoring tool will save. > > Stephen
Well, I have been using it for 2 years now, and while I still prefer Python "big-time" to Java, I have really grown to love Eclipse. To each his own I guess. I agree you shouldn't bank on productivity gains from refactoring tools. And I agree they are definitely no kind of replacement for good people. I just think it is silly not to benefit from them. M. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list