On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:20:12 AM UTC-6, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/15/2013 10:59 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > > Why do i need to see "C:\users\user\documents\python\lib" EVERY time? > > You're thinking about things from a very windows-centric point of view.
How are file paths or directories a windows _only_ point of view. Last time i checked, the other "big two" supported such features. > There are many cases where as a developer I need to see the full paths. Yes i agree, but not if those files exist in you dev library. > My modules are not always going to be in a common subfolder. Well they should be, however, there are a few valid exceptions. > Django > apps, for example, live in an arbitrary folder, in my case, > /var/www/apps on my web server. And a web server would be a valid exception -- granted that the web sever is NOT your actual library folder, if it were the path could be shortened. > Sometimes they live in my home projects > folder. Django itself lives partly in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages > and partly in /usr/share/django. Granted most of my errors are going to > happen in my own code, which is in /var/www/apps/blah. But occasionally > I might uncover a django bug (less likely of course). Seeing the full > path is essential for me. And under my plan you WILL see the whole path _IF_ the django folder is NOT your "registered"[1] lib folder. > As well, runtime errors get logged as the > system is serving, and they could come from any of my apps, depending on > how bad a programmer I am. > > Finally, in an ideal world, all runtime errors should be trapped by the > program. The end user should never see them. Who said anything about end users? My comments are for developer ears only. > Traces are for developers, not users. This comment ignores the main point, but i agree. [1] Whether a dev must register a lib folder or use a predetermined folder is yet to be decided. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list