At one point or another I'm pretty sure I've googled "_____ sucks" for every language I've ever used- even the ones I like. ie: Python easily more than once.
Craig reporting from the road 10550 N Torrey Pines Rd La Jolla CA 92037 work: 858 784 9208 cell: 619 623 2233 On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:42:49 -0700, Michael Torrie wrote: > >>> And from the TIOBE Index, Python is steady at number 8: >>> >>> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html >> >> The TIOBE index is meaningless. Since it's based on google searches, >> one could probably guess that any language that is awkward and difficult >> will require more searches to figure out how to use the thing. Thus of >> course C is top! Especially if ranked by sarcastic queries like, "C >> sucks," and "why does C suck so much." > > If you have a problem with TIOBE's methodology, feel free to come up with > your own. Or take it up with them. > > I dispute that TIOBE measures difficulty of language. If it did, Malbolge > would likely be at the top of the list. Yes, there are sarcastic queries > asking "C sucks", but that's just measurement error: 21,200 hits for "C > sucks" versus 9,900,000 for "C programming". It's not as if there is any > language, not even Python, that is so easy to use that nobody needs to > write about it. > > >> Javascript is doing much more than just "treading water." > > How do you know? What's *your* methodology for determining the popularity > of a language? > > * "But everybody knows that Javascript is super popular!!!" > > * "All my friends are using Javascript." > > * "I'm a web developer, and I use Javascript for my day job." > > * "I counted 14 job adverts on Monster.com for Javascript devs last week, > what more evidence does anyone need?" > > * "I googled for `What's the most popular language?` and found a blog > that says it's Javascript, that's good enough for me." > > * "I have a gut feeling." > > If you are going to criticise TIOBE's methodology, and then make your own > claims for language popularity, you really need to demonstrate that your > methodology is better. > > >> Javascript >> may not be glamorous but it is *the* glue that makes the web run. > > And web development is a tiny fraction of all software development. > > > > -- > Steven > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
