On 03/08/12 14:54, rusi wrote:
On Aug 3, 4:34 pm, lipska the kat<lipskathe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
A while ago someone asked me what I thought of the Eclipse plugin for
python, well I just downloaded and installed the latest version of
Eclipse for Java (Juno) followed by the Python plugin.
Thanks Lipska for reporting back.
I personally find the eclipse UI frightening but I am unwilling to
conclude that its eclipse and not me.
snip.
I have no vested interest in Eclipse but I don't believe that you would
feel the same once you got your head around the basics. I don't pretend
to be an expert, far from it, but I have taught myself enough to go into
a contract and hit the ground running, loading the source tree into
Eclipse is a great way to start to understand the code and the libraries
it uses. Well it works for me anyway.
More to the point, it seems to me that eclipse was today what emacs
was then -- seemingly too large but in time I expect it will not seem
so large.
It can be bewildering I agree but the basics are not too intimidating.
I remember early versions of IBMs VisualAge for Java ... guaranteed to
give you brain damage.
So one more request from me:
Can you try the refactoring support and tell us how it fares?
Well, I don't really have enough Python code to refactor anything at the
moment however I did try something that may or may not prove to be
informative.
If I create a Java class and right click in the code window and select
refactor from the context menu there is a HUGE list of things I can do.
Why I might want to do some of them I have no idea, but there they are.
In contrast if I create a Python class and select refactor I get a
significantly smaller list of things I can do. Inline local variable,
Extract local variable, Extract method, Rename, Generate constructors,
Generate properties and Override/Implement methods. I think this may be
a result of Pythons different (from Java) grammar rules. I can write a
Python class and call it Foo and save it in a file called Bar and it's
no big deal (at least Eclipse doesn't get excited) If I try that in Java
the sky falls in. Of course I'm about as far away from being a Python
expert as it's possible to be.
Anyway, if and when I find out more I'll let you know. It will be a
while though.
lipska
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