Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
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After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our disagreement
lies: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the same
thing,

Do you agree that an unbound method and a bound method are different? In Python, as indicated by the glossary entry, an unspecified 'method' is usually meant to be an unbound method.

I think you two are in violent agreement as far as how Python is functioning, and the conflict is in the names given to the various pieces... I think a glossary would help (please correct me):

function:  callable code suite

method:  function that lives in a class

unbound method:  function that lives in a class

bound method: callable wrapper around function that has been extracted from class that will supply the instance object to the function (note: Python does not save these, they are recreated at each lookup)

I think the above 'bound method' definition should be attributed to Terry, and Steven's follows:

bound method: callable wrapper around any function that will accept an instance object as the first parameter, and the wrapper will supply said instance object when calling the function (and where/how function was created is irrelevent, as is where the wrapper is stored)


and here is where I think you two diverge:

instance method (Steven): a bound method that has been saved into the instance __dict__ (no matter how created)

instance method (Terry):  a function that must be looked up in the class


Have I missed anything?

Honestly-trying-learn-the-distinctions-ly yours,

~Ethan~

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