On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:58:37PM -0700, rantingrick wrote: > My hat is off to you Mr. Richardson. I've even considered creating my > own clean versions of these two modules, because heck, it is not that > difficult to do! However we must stop fixing these warts on a local > level Corey. We MUST clean up this damn python stdlib once and for > all.
One could get the impression that you are leading a grass-roots movement fighting a big faceless corporation. Instead, what you're dealing with is this warm and friendly Python community you could as well be a part of if you are a reasonable guy and write good code. > I am willing and you are willing; that's two people. However, can we > convince the powers that be to upgrade these modules? Sure, if we get > enough people shouting for it to happen they will notice. So come on > people make your voices heard. Chime in and let the devs know we are > ready to unite and tackle these problems in our stdlib. Yeah, great. Please write code. Or a PEP. > What this community needs (first and foremost) is some positive > attitudes. If you don't want to write the code fine. But at least > chime in and say... "Hey guys, that's a good idea! I would like to see > some of these APIs cleaned up too. good luck! +1" +1 > Now, even if we get one hundred people chanting... "Yes, Yes, Fix This > Mess!"... i know Guido and company are going to frown because of > backwards incompatibility. But let me tell you something people, the > longer we put off these changes the more painful they are going to > be. And backwards compatibility is bad why? Tell me, what exactly is your view towards this? Should there be none? > Python 3000 would have been the perfect time to introduce a more > intuitive and unified zip/tar archive module however that did not > happen. So now we need to think about adding a duplicate module > "archive.py" and deprecating zipfile.py and tarfile.py. We can remove > the old modules when Python 4000 rolls out. > > That's just step one people, we have a long way to go! archive.py is no new idea. Unfortunately, to this day, nobody had the time to come up with an implementation. Let me say it again: less false pathos, more code. Please. -- Lars Gustäbel l...@gustaebel.de To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (Mark Twain) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
