On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <pointede...@web.de> wrote: > Thomas Guettler wrote: > >> On 30.06.2011 03:24, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> Andrew Berg wrote: >>>> […] >>> >>> As for your question in the Subject, I do not know since I am reading the >>> newsgroup. >>> >>> Therefore, however, I can tell you that the mailing list to Usenet >>> gateway is seriously borked, as missing References header fields are not >>> generated by the gateway. As a result, there are few if any threads left >>> in the newsgroup, which makes it an increasing PITA to read. (And no, >>> threading by Subject is a stupid idea.) >>> >>> Would someone responsible *please* fix this? I am willing to provide >>> assistance, see also my suggestion in >>> <news:5337093.9j7nak4...@pointedears.de>. >> >> Who is responsible? > > If I knew that I would not ask here. > >> I think in the past there were not many broken threads. I wonder what >> changed this. > > One factor, as I see it, is an increasing number of people using e-mail > clients that do not generate the References header field, as it is only a > SHOULD, not a MUST per RFC 5322, or people using mail clients that are FUBAR > (like G2, Google Groups and Mail). But that header field is mandatory for > Network News (RFC 5536), and if it is missing you create a mess for > newsreaders (applications and people alike). "Bugs" making a slumbering > real bug in the gateway implementation apparent. > > But that appears to be only half the truth as e.g. I can retrieve none of > the messages that <mailman.524.1309439986.1164.python-l...@python.org> of > 15:19 GMT+02:00 today refers to, regardless from where they supposedly > originated. I am not deleting messages locally and I have a rather fast and > reliable newsfeed, so the messages should have arrived by now. > > -- > PointedEars > > Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. / Please do not Cc: me. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >
Not sure if this is relevant. I use mail.google.com to follow mailing lists and a large proportion of python-list traffic ends up in my gmail spam folder for some reason? -- TP -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list