On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, John Lee <j...@pobox.com> wrote: > Dan Stromberg <drsalists <at> gmail.com> writes: > > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, John J Lee <jjl <at> pobox.com> wrote: > > </troll> > > I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are > > things I don't like. > > What are your favourite up-and-coming languages of the moment? > > Here's my wishlist (not really in any order): > > * A widely used standard for (optional) interface declaration -- or > > something better. I want it to be easier to know what interface an > > object has when reading code, and which objects provide that > > interface. > > > > > > I do miss this sometimes, but pylint takes things far enough for me. > > Pylint? Does it provide some kind of guessed-at-type that has been > integrated > with IDEs? >
Pylint does type inferencing - I find it very valuable on large projects, and even some not-so-large projects. I doubt Pylint's been integrated into any IDE's, but ISTR that there's an IDE out there that has pyflakes in it. I suspect PyCharm does its own type stuff. I've heard (but not tried) that vim can have pyflakes integrated into it. For emacs, I really don't know. I'm more of a vim perrson, but I've considered switching to PyCharm by JetBrains - people in the Java world really seem to like what JetBrains did for Java, and PyCharm purportedly has vi keybindings, so I shouldn't end up typing way too many keystrokes for the same tasks. > > > * Better refactoring tools, better code analysis tools (lint, search, > > etc.). > > > > I find pylint excellent. My idea of a refactoring tool is vim's n.n.n., > but > have you looked at PyCharm? > > > In this thread, I'm asking about the views of Python programmers on > languages > other than Python. Thanks for the link, though (does PyCharm provide > reliable > refactoring tools that are useable from emacs?). > > I'm inclined to doubt that emacs can swallow PyCharm (or PyCharm be swallowed by emacs). But PyCharm probably has refactoring. For a bolt-on to vim or emacs, you might look at "Rope".
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